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1考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 12:41:52.930
If you're not accustomed to using a foreign language
in your daily life, your mind and behavior would be declining
into closed Galapagos society with time.

That mean you have fallen to the level of inhabitants
at the bottom of the well. Also using English seems like
to have factors of the Enlightenment for most Japanese people.
Hence you'd better off using more foreign language or English
in your daily life.

Try it immediately!

2考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 13:08:12.720
Actually, I have intended to post like the following thread title.

"What do you say to having discussions on philosophy in English?"

But due to character limit, it was impossible.

3考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 15:26:27.140
Psych yourself up!

4考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 20:03:47.330
Today I have some progressed on the IT systems.
For example, I installed some special files for the purpose of
being advanced already-existing device systems.

And to add to it I installed ad blocker. I hate all advertisements
extremely, therefore due to the APP banished ad,
it have been changed to neat screen. That made me so happy.

5考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 20:04:26.460
In addition to that, I could get new corpus-based dictionary
of English and Japanese. Also I have gotten new virtual keyboard.

And recently, I've also subscribed Japanese-English web dictionary,
it would prompt writing and posting in English on the Net.
And whenever I write something in English, I almost use new tablet not pc.

Because if one install adequate APP, recent tablet has good predictive
transform in words, thus I need not to use PC for my English writing or posting.
Overall, today I could equip sophisticated my IT systems. And it would be
possible to write something more in English in the future.

6考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 23:10:20.810
“There is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way.”

7考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 23:18:16.490
Wow Tatsuki Uchida's pride Tatsuki Uchida's pride Tatsuki Uchida's pride Tatsuki Uchida's pride
Tatsuki Uchida's pride Tatsuki Uchida's pride

8考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 23:31:23.700
My answer is that any good plastic surgeon is and must be a psychologist,
whether he would have it so or not. When you change a man’s face you almost
invariably change his future.

Change his physical image and nearly always you change the man—
his personality, his behavior—and sometimes even his basic talents and abilities.

9考える名無しさん2022/09/04(日) 23:44:35.320
>>7
He is fond of martial arts, isn't he?

10考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 00:46:14.320
A commentary on Plato

11考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 00:52:25.930
Philosophy is somewhat analogous to mathematics.

12考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 11:23:20.100
>>6 So is Junich back?

13考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 12:31:20.830
Are you Junich Davidson ?

14考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 14:07:05.180
Before that, do you know the teleology?

15考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 17:31:54.850
English for what. That should be.

16考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 18:17:38.790
例えばSTAP細胞の論文を書くための英語力?

17考える名無しさん2022/09/05(月) 18:22:17.090
小保方のように、愚行をどんどん英語でやってほしいというのがスレの動機?

18考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 18:33:46.470
STAPの悲劇はエセ技術と体育会系がタッグを組んだ悲劇
元々上級が体育会系で占められる日本に、土建以外の繊細な技術革新を要求した結果、上部だけ取り繕った洋菓子のような技術を上級国民らが食いついてそんなソーカル的な喜劇が起こるようになってる

19考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 18:38:42.920
逆ソーカル

20考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 20:30:56.910
Almost people are prone to settle for familiar thing unwittingly.
But It's not good. Such attitude would bring regressive of brain function.
Of course, vice versa is true. If people try something unfamiliar thing,
it would bring progressive of brain function.

21考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 21:06:08.380
I've read some articles before, a bilingual person
less likely to have dementia than a monolingual person.
Namely, almost Japanese are monolingual,
therefore they have vulnerable brain functions
against that desease in the future.

For example, I assume also Alzheimer's disease would have
similar tendency. In terms of this aspect, learning English
or foreigne languages will be good for most Japanese.

22考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 22:09:29.620
Nothing succeeds like success.

23考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 22:29:33.870
This thread has been designed not merely to be read
but to be experienced.

24考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 23:09:39.910
I assume mathematics and philosophy has some
common denominator in the functions.
Both has tendency to abstract built-in objectives
or schemes which is derived from this generated universe.

25考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 23:38:07.370
The following sentence has just opposite direction meaning of >>24.

"When it rains, it pours."

Namely, you can look at some reinforcing feedback loops here.
Thus if one are rich now, the one are likely to be more richer in the future.
Needless to say, vice versa is true.

I guess it has same trait about learning, or other things.

26考える名無しさん2022/09/06(火) 23:41:26.710
>>22
× >>24

27考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 00:03:56.120
Almost people are prone to settle for familiar things unwittingly.
But It's not good. Such attitudes would bring regressive gray matter.
Of course, vice versa is true. If people try something unfamiliar thing,
it would generate progressive gray matter.

28考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 00:18:09.340
I assume mathematics and philosophy has some
common denominator in the functions.
Both has tendency to abstract built-in objectives
or schemes which are derived from this generated universe.

29考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 00:19:50.460
I've read some articles before, a bilingual person
less likely to have dementia than a monolingual person.
Namely, almost Japanese are monolingual,
therefore they have vulnerable brain functions
against that desease in the future.

For example, I assume also Alzheimer's disease would have
similar tendency. In terms of this aspect, learning English
or foreign languages will be good for most Japanese.

30考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 04:32:38.830
I think reading in English is passive behavior,
but writing in English is active one.
Thus I'd like to write in English more frequently.

In fact, I don't acquaint oneself with English syntax and writing,
but I intend to accustom to this new behavior with time.

31考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 04:36:14.380
>○ I don't acquaint myself with English syntax

32考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 04:38:17.290
I think reading in English is passive behavior,
but writing in English is active one.
Thus I'd like to write in English more frequently.

In fact, I don't acquaint myself with English syntax
and writing yet, but I intend to drill to this unfamiliar
attempt with time.

33考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 13:51:34.130
I think a person need to grow out of old-fashioned behavior and thought.
If you stick to that old ones, you would fail almost things in time.
Because this world is changing by the second, persistence to old ways would
necessary build in some frustrations.

34考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 14:08:35.410
So to say, to persist in old-fashioned is akin to suicidal actions.

35考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 14:21:32.960
So that a person can adapt for new circumstances constantly,
ones need to try something unfamiliar things in the everyday life.
In terms of this, learning English would be fit for almost Japanese.

36考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 14:36:16.600
TEST:

The average of biological life (existance) is apparent itself.

37考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 15:00:43.560
Abmittedly, to use English is not so easy for almost Japanese.
But at now, current surroundings of IT systems are so favored.
Thus to leverage these devices sufficiently would help your learning English.

Do you know Hideyo Noguchi of bacteriologist who could use English fluently?
Needles to say, at that era is nothing equipped IT systems like now.
He also could use Chinese language.

He was Japanese, hence if you continue learning constantly we can also
use English in a skillful manner in time.

38考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 15:05:04.900
AND, ENGLISH FOR WHAT?

39考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 15:08:38.670
>>37
>○ admittedly

40考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 15:13:21.420
>>38
It's for acquiring new ways of thinking and behaviors.

41考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 17:08:21.550
Discussing just about English in English?

42考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 17:43:22.330
>>41
Not at all. The one aim of this thread is changing
already-existing human mental models and behaviors.
And for the purpose of that, I've stated learning English would be good for most Japanese.

Besides, of couse, questioning existence to be is philosophy.

43考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 18:25:18.230
As everybody knows, current Japan is crumbling
into the bottom of the dark sea.This faltering society
is due to old-fashioned relics of long standing.

Therefore, past familiar things and habitus shall need
to be abandoned for the future.

44考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 18:41:43.510
And I suppose right Wing and Conservative is a bigot.

45考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 19:26:43.360
To be reborn

46考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 20:19:56.670
Savvy❓

47考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 20:56:32.160
Englisch ist nie die sich für die Philosophie geeignete Sprache.
Alles totaler Blödsinn.
Die echte Linke — wenn man sich dafür halten möchte —soll
möglichst die in der über-kapitalistischen imperialistischen Stadt
gebrauchte vermeiden.

48考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 22:05:05.720
>>47
Why not?For instance, analytic philosophy is derived from
English-speaking countries. And I assume analytic philosophy
is relevant to computer science and conception of AI significantly.

49考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 22:06:47.180
Savvy?

50考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 23:00:57.630
Einige langweilige Beispiele.
Wie unterscheidet man dem Sein und dem Seienden, dem Dasein, dem Wesen, der Existenz u.a.?
Und solche arme Ausdre(ü)cke, die teknokratenideologiefreisprachformenunfäig sind.

51考える名無しさん2022/09/07(水) 23:43:13.270
You're post is incoherent. Now, I'm talking about analytic philosophy
not continental philosophy. Especially, I'd like to discuss a generality
which is applicable to current problems.

52考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 00:07:12.410
In arithmetic we are not concerned with objects which
we come to know as something alien from without through
the medium of the senses, but with objects given immediately
to our reason and, as its nearest kin, utterly transparent to it.

53考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 01:59:11.590
I'm resting now, while listening to music.

54塩なめくじ2022/09/08(木) 09:49:38.97ID:IS7oh9I10

55考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 10:50:59.060
Die generality, die man so nennen kann, d.i. die Allgemenheit,
muss in Ansicht der Wortbedeutung mit allem Seieinden und
dem Sein tun haben.
Was da gezeigt ist >>current<<, nicht allgemein sondern temporell,
oberflächlich, einzeln.

Das Blablabla, das angeblich Philosophie ist, ist in Wirklichkeit nur die >>current<< Technologie.
Sie sollen zuerst nicht die >>objects of senses<< d.i. temporelle Phänomene,
sondern im vernünftigen Niveau die Begriffenanalyse studieren.

56考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 13:15:43.600
Wie liest man die analytische Sprachphilosophen, z.B. Frege, Wittgenstein?
Auf Englisch, das alles vereinfachende Gespenst?
Sehr schönes Studium.

57考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 15:48:41.110
>>56
I think they're both logical philosopher.
But I evaluate Frege more, because his influence to current computer languages are self-evident.

58考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 15:52:51.260
Are you Anonymous?

59考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 15:55:10.850
why are you not familiar with english

60考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 16:10:09.080
I suppose we need sure premises of our philosophical discussions.
If we didn't that, the discussion would tend to be flawed sterile content.

61考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 16:16:26.200
can you understand the question? haha

62考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 17:37:45.090
>>60
So, what do you know?

63考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 17:44:52.500
you may be a russian hacker

64考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 18:07:05.390
>>57
Sie können nur eine Antwort nicht geben?
Haben Sie die mindeste Diskussion-Kommunikationsfähigkeit?
Ein lesbares Wort finden und bloß Ihre Einfälle daran sagen, nicht wahr?

65考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 18:16:23.510
What do you think of the Hermit?

66考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 21:50:15.870
Derrida hat recht wenn er zeigt, daß in der Sprachen es viele scheinbar
überflüssige und unlogische aber wirklich notwendige und sprachgrundkonstruierenden
Dimensionen gibt.

Aber Derrida tat nichts besonderes, es ist allzu gemein und bekannt.
Alle wissen davon außer der merkwürdigen sich selbst als Philosophen
nennenden, die die verschiedene Sprachelemente wie Ironie, Scherz,
>>Kyoto-jin Euphemismus<< wohl nicht verstehen.

67考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 21:54:07.810
Ich liebe dich

68考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 22:53:44.240
There are no certainties in life except death.

69考える名無しさん2022/09/08(木) 23:44:42.700
Frege had held a view of adamant negation about psychologism
for objctive epistemology.Because people have different inner state
of mind, he had assumed that would be impossible to conceive
or share objectivity on the plane of mind.

For the purpose of objective perception or cognition,
Frege thought it's need to concentrate just physical plane
not psycological one.

I can agree with Frege, but not full part.

70考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 00:11:27.390
Therefore, Frege had weighed heavily arithmetical objects or logics.
For instance, "1 + 1 = 2" is easy to share for anybody.

But inner state of minds are different each others,
thus it's not easy to share psychologistic entities of something surely.

71考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 00:26:55.240
Die Fregeische Denkweise erklärt warum einer die komplexe aber ganz normale
Sprache nicht richtig verseht, nicht warum man solche Ignoranz als Sprachkundig
sehen darf.
Der unabsichtlich den normale Kommunikationsprozeß verkennt, der kennt
die Sprachemechanismen keineswegs.

72考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 17:32:03.190
I can observe prominent discrepancy between to exist and to be existed.
Almost past slaves were to be existed by compulsion for industrials,
not to exist by voluntarily.

In this mean, obedient almost current Japanese looks like past slaves.

73考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 17:59:05.130
In Japan, almost nothing such demos like united states.
As if Japan is most successful country in the world. But in fact,
it's not true. Japan is merely tamed slave country.

Do you know the genuine reason why most Japanese like to wear
masks constantly? Is it for preventing pandemic? No way.
The reason is due to Japanese are slaves, so they like to be forbidden
free utterance by wearing masks.

74考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 18:03:18.930
If you watch American news for a while, you can observe many demos
against many matters or issues. For example, it's against banning abortion,
racism, bad educational condition, crimes, global warming, etc.

In Japan, almost nothing such demos like united states. As if Japan is
most successful country in the world. But in fact, it's not true. Japan is
merely tamed slave country.

Do you know the genuine reason why most Japanese like to wear
masks constantly? Is it for preventing pandemic? No way.
The reason is due to Japanese are slaves, so they like to be forbidden
free utterance by wearing masks.

75考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 18:39:13.390
I assume demo is relevant to democracy crucially.
In terms of this, it would be said, Japan is declining into
incorrigible disfunction of democracy.

76考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 19:14:53.220
I can observe prominent discrepancy between to exist and to be existed.
Almost past slaves were to be existed by compulsion for industrials,
not to exist by voluntarily. In this mean, obedient almost current
Japanese looks like past slaves.

If you watch American news for a while, you can observe many demos
against many matters or issues. For example, it's against banning abortion,
racism, immigration problem, bad educational condition, crimes,
being threatened human rights, global warming, etc.

In Japan, almost nothing such demos like the United States.
As if Japan is most successful country in the world. But in fact,
it's not true. Japan is merely tamed slave country.

Do you know the genuine reason why most Japanese like to wear
masks constantly? Is it for preventing pandemic? No way.
The reason is due to Japanese are slaves, so they like to be forbidden
free utterances by wearing masks.

I assume demo is relevant to democracy crucially.
In terms of this, it would be said, Japan is declining into
incorrigible disfunction of democracy. 

77考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 20:23:51.020
Current Japanese soceity has too many severe problems.
Nonetheless most Japanese stay to be tamed silent,
that appearance seems like slaves of past era.

78考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 20:49:07.910
Anyhow, I think Japanese people should have more decisive will of oneself.
To obey collective decisions tamely are not self-decision.

It's merely slave behavior.

79考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 21:22:15.490
While I wouldn't go so far to say most Japanese are silly,
but at least, it would be said, just merely obedience
which is not rational behavior in there.

80考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 21:26:35.830
Paranoia ist ja ok.
Jeder kritische Perspektiv, also jedes Denken des denkenden ist
psychoanalyitsch gesagt mehr oder minder paranoid.

81考える名無しさん2022/09/09(金) 23:50:33.780
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results.

82考える名無しさん2022/09/10(土) 02:30:54.390
I like to critique against Japanese society, especially in English recently.
I suppose all things have own critical point for changing.

There're changes of two types, I call that type (a), (b) respectively.
Type (a) has a direction of change for advancing, on the other hand,
type (b) has a direction of change for regression.
In addition to that, type (c) would be being as a sign of stagnant
or state of level off.But, once I reserve the direction of type (c) here.

We'd better be on the lookout for critical point of society.
We must scout around for type (a) and type (b) in the current stagnant
Japanese society or seek for unknown blue ocean.

Don't look for someone's leftovers, we should find just unknown blue ocean.

83考える名無しさん2022/09/10(土) 10:51:47.360
Just do it.

84考える名無しさん2022/09/10(土) 10:53:20.460
modern people rather than Japanese

85考える名無しさん2022/09/10(土) 22:29:42.070
If a person act out as if ones hope is already achieved,
it would be likely to become actual reality.

86考える名無しさん2022/09/10(土) 22:48:39.850
If you have bad self-image, it would actually work for worsen direction.
Conversely, If you have good self-image, it would work for better direction.

So which one should we have as self-image?
Also such self-image has reinforcement for feedback loops in same direction.

87考える名無しさん2022/09/11(日) 20:21:40.360
Let me know if you get stuck.

88考える名無しさん2022/09/11(日) 20:31:32.490
I assume climate change take a toll severely in Japan
in due course like the United States at now.

89考える名無しさん2022/09/11(日) 20:51:13.420
And I suppose almost current world problems are due to being overpopulation.
Thus, if population can decrease till one tenth of present level, it would turn 
the heat off many problems.

90考える名無しさん2022/09/13(火) 22:20:27.650
Most Japanese don't have determinate criteria
due to oneself nor does it have own opinions.


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